关于美国天然气期货后市判断的一段问答和争论

目前大家肯定都很关心后市怎么走,现在是不是底部?未来会反弹到什么程度?等等。

我在Seeking Alpha里发现了一段很有价值的对话。分献给大家。

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Bluegold在Seeking Alpha写了一篇文章,并在留言板里和网友互动。它首先回答了一个网友的问题,然后和另一个网友产生了观点碰撞。

我首先把英文粘贴过来,然后把“百度翻译+我的微调”附在后面。

motorist555

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Does this all mean that the nat. gas price will go up toward the $3.00 mark?

12 Feb 2019, 03:12 PMReply1Like

Bluegold Research,Marketplace Contributor

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the price of $3.00 and above $3.00 is very likely during the summer. March contract price should trend higher (fair value is near 2.900), but it appears that seasonal sentiment is just too bearish.

12 Feb 2019, 03:19 PMReply2Like

Steve Frechette,Contributor

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@Bluegold Research

You’ve gone off the rails if you believe that.

Or perhaps you believe we’ll have a repeat of super bullish 2018 weather??

12 Feb 2019, 03:55 PMReply0Like

Bluegold Research,Marketplace Contributor

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200 bcf draw is likely for the week ending Feb. 22 (in case the weather models do not change substantially). At a price of 2.600, EOS storage (October) will struggle to reach 3,000 bcf. The market should keep prices higher (2.900-3.10) during the injection season to stimulate larger injection rate or else it will (once again) find itself exposed to huge and unhealthy weather volatility during the winter. A huge rally we saw in November last year could have been avoided if prices were only 10% higher during the summer.

12 Feb 2019, 04:32 PMReply4Like

Steve Frechette,Contributor

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Why on earth would you want to avoid volatility like that?? Winter trading is the only thing that makes natty interesting. And why would you want to give the idiot E&Ps a higher strip to hedge against? They’ve already overdone it.

The November spike would have peaked a lot lower in a normal market where idiots weren’t allowed to sell naked calls OOTM for huge positions relative to their account assets. RIP OptionsExpress.

Most likely we would have seen a Jan-2018 type of rally peaking near ~$4 which is exactly what the market is supposed to do to throttle demand.

We started winter with 3,250 BCF due to extreme bullish weather in 2018. We’re likely to finish with ~1,150+. That’s a non event in the big picture with all of the new midstream and the Perm to gulf pipe coming in Q4-19/Q1-20.

You could look at it differently and say the price curve needs to lower active gas rigs to ~165-175 until we get further into summer.

WTI looks steady above $50 and ass-gas isn’t slowing down with L48 production near ATH’s. No help there.

If we have average 10 year weather, EIA storage will go back to ~3,600+ by next Nov. I’d argue that’s too much gas with the Appalachian animals unchained.

In any event, I thought the bulls wanted a baseline of ~$3.50+? You certainly aren’t getting anywhere close to that with 195 rigs operating.

The market is saying there’s too much gas unless we get bullish weather all summer. Let’s see if the market is right.

12 Feb 2019, 05:38 PM

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高能预警!

下面是百度翻译的中文版。

百度翻译,你们都懂的,我只是把完全不通的地方改了一下。

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摩托车司机55

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这一切都意味着天然气价格会涨到3.00美元吗?

2019212日下午3:12回复如下

BlueGold Research,市场贡献者

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作者回复»3.00美元及以上的价格很可能在夏季。3月份的合同价格应该会趋向更高(公允价值接近2.900),但似乎季节性情绪太悲观了。

2019212日下午3:19回复

史蒂夫·弗雷切特,撰稿人

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@蓝金研究

如果你相信的话,你已经偏离轨道了。

或者你认为我们会重演2018年的超级牛市天气??

2019212日下午3:55回复

BlueGold Research,市场贡献者

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作者回复:截止222日的一周内,可能会有200BCF减少(以防天气模型没有大幅度变化)。以2.600的价格,EOS存储(10月)将难以达到3000 bcf。在注射季节,市场应该保持更高的价格(2.900-3.10),以刺激更大的注射率,否则它会(再次)发现自己在冬季暴露在巨大和不健康的天气波动中。去年11月我们看到的一场巨大的反弹本可以避免,只要夏季价格上涨10%

2019212日下午4:32回复

史蒂夫·弗雷切特,撰稿人

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你到底为什么要避免这样的波动?冬季交易是唯一能让天然气有趣的事情。你为什么要给愚蠢的勘采商一个更高的门槛来对冲?他们已经吃得太多了。

在一个白痴不被允许出售相对于他们的账户资产而言头寸过大的naked calls(无担保承购期权)的正常市场上,11月的峰值本应该会低很多。

最有可能的情况是,我们看到20181月的反弹峰值接近4美元,这正是市场应该做的,以抑制需求。

由于2018年天气极端乐观,我们以3250立方英尺的速度开始了冬季。我们很可能以~1150+结束。这在大范围内是不可能的,所有的新中游和Perm-to-Gulf管道都将在第4-19/1-20季度上市。

你可以用不同的眼光看待它,说价格曲线需要将活跃的天然气钻井平台降低到165-175,直到我们进入夏季。

WTI看起来稳定在50美元以上,而阿萨斯天然气公司(AssGas)的L48产量在ATH附近并没有放缓,没有任何帮助。

如果我们有平均10年的天气,到下个11月,EIA的储存量将回到3600+左右。我认为这是太多的天然气,阿巴拉契亚这个动物没有束缚的话

无论如何,我认为公牛队想要3.50美元以上的底线?在195个钻井平台的运作下,你肯定不会有任何接近这一点的进展。

市场说,除非我们整个夏天天气都好,否则天然气太多。让我们看看市场是否正确。

2019212日下午5:38

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以上的对话非常有启示意义的。

讨论的深度要高于国内一般分析师的水平。

结论其实是仁者见仁智者见智,只有等事实来证明谁是对的。

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